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PostSubject: My ongoing '60 project   11/7/2009, 2:07 pm

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OK, I figured I would start a thread to follow the work I do to my bug and to prove I actually own a VW Laughing

I present to you Gertrude, my 1960 ragtop bug. I named her after my late grandma who's actual name was Betty. My wife used to call her Gertrude when we dated in high school. Here's some pics:

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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   6/4/2010, 8:37 am

I kinda figured I would have to buy the tubing and build my own. FUN! I'll have to gut the driver's side of the car (seats, carpet, etc.) which is something i'm not looking forward to. I'm afraid of what I may find Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   6/6/2010, 1:38 pm

new brake lines will be arriving on monday. see you soon
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   6/6/2010, 3:18 pm

WooHoo! Thank you sir!
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   6/11/2010, 11:17 pm

how about those brakes are they stopping you yet? don't make me come back down there lol
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   6/12/2010, 2:20 pm

I stripped out the seat and carpet from the driver's side and removed the bottom of the back seat to find one nasty pan. Its been patched and looks to be safe for now but there was alot of crap built up under the carpet and a decent amount of surface rust where the brake line ruptured. Best part is it broke in the worst place possible, right in front of the pedals Shocked . I cleaned everything up and am letting it dry real good so I can give it a good coat of paint. It seemed to me that since I was down there and everything was out of my way, a little preventative maintenance was in order. I'll do the passenger side when I run the cables back for the amps. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   6/13/2010, 10:07 am

preventative maint. is always good. if you need any help you know how to reach me!
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   7/6/2010, 9:11 am

Hey Jerm did you get those brake lines in and find someone to do the tank for u?
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   7/6/2010, 8:45 pm

sounds like a fun job lol!
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   7/7/2010, 2:52 pm

^^^Not at all!^^^

My family is leaving next Tuesday for a week! Keeping my fingers crossed that its running b4 they get back.
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   7/8/2010, 8:57 am

Hi, Jerm!
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   7/8/2010, 10:00 am

Charlie! Long time. How ya been?
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   7/8/2010, 10:42 am

Been O.K. Can't wait to see your car rolling again!
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   7/8/2010, 10:55 am

You and me both my friend. Soon . . . I hope
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   7/16/2010, 11:21 pm

SHE RUNS AGAIN ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

I finished off a couple "adjustments" today and took her for a cruise. That was very much needed cheers
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   7/16/2010, 11:25 pm

just in time for the voting ,LOL

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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   7/16/2010, 11:31 pm

Hey!, I didn't think of that. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   8/6/2010, 12:28 pm

Hey Jerm,

This is Jeff, I asked you if you needed a hand when you had trouble at the gas station.. I hope you got your car sorted out. I read through your thread.......You've done lots of work to your ride! It looked very nice when I saw it that day. I live in Sarasota, so if you need a hand with your car let me know.
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   8/6/2010, 12:44 pm

Jeff, welcome aboard! Thanks for the kind words and a BIG THANKS for stopping to offer up your help! Its funny, I had soo many people stop to make sure I was Ok that day. They all told me how they own or have owned VW's. It made for a fun time while broken down. I since have gotten the bug repaired. Fuel pump was the problem and seems like it might have been going for quite some time as the bug runs better now than it ever has. Thanks again!
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   8/6/2010, 1:57 pm

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Jeff, welcome aboard! Thanks for the kind words and a BIG THANKS for stopping to offer up your help! Its funny, I had soo many people stop to make sure I was Ok that day. They all told me how they own or have owned VW's. It made for a fun time while broken down. I since have gotten the bug repaired. Fuel pump was the problem and seems like it might have been going for quite some time as the bug runs better now than it ever has. Thanks again!

Thanks for the welcome. I'm glad you got yout car back up and running. I'm glad it was just a fuel pump. I have two extras in my garage! The pumps I have are the older rebuildable type, always good to have around and even in your car when you go out for a ride. It's funny how so many people stop and talk to you about their old VW experience(s). I get the same thing when I take my car out as well.

If you ever need a hand with your car let me know.
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   8/6/2010, 2:16 pm

nice carma
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   8/7/2010, 1:54 am

see there i told you there were a lot of VW people in that area. 9 years of running around in the sarasota area i have seen air cooled rides all over the place.
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   8/7/2010, 11:51 am

They definitely came out of the woodwork that day!
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   8/7/2010, 7:34 pm

timing is everything. too cool
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   9/20/2010, 9:41 am

Benn doing a little work on the bug. Got the rest of the stereo installed. Sounds great! I now have the rear seat back removed and stripped down. It will be going to my metal guy to get rebuilt to allow room for the amps that now take up alot of the space the seat back once did.

The adjuster on the rear passenger brake froze so I removed and cleaned that. Brakes back up to par.

I do have a concern over the clutch pedal. I drove it all day Friday with hardly any issues. The brake pedal bound up a little but was easily resolved when I removed a rusty fender washer that was jammed between the pedal and the pan. Once I got that working, the clutch pedal started resting further back than before. Its now pointing at me instead of the more upright position it once was. There's alot of play in the pedal and the clutch has a little "jitter" feel when I press it in. Any ideas?
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   9/20/2010, 11:55 am

You may need to adjust the pedal stop (small piece of steel bolted to the floor in front of pedal assembly) or replace it. It holds the pedals upright. A week floor pan can keep them from holding the pedals too. Could be the cause of jitter.
Maybe that rusty fender washer helped act as a pedal stop?
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   9/20/2010, 12:14 pm

That makes sense. The washer also had a rusted off bolt head with it but I couldn't figure out where it came from. Its part of the landscaping at the local auto parts store now Laughing I bet the brake line rupture that I just repaired right there by the pedals was the final straw for that stop. Once it came free, it jammed up the brake pedal.
Stupid brake fluid! Mad
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   9/20/2010, 3:58 pm

I have to replace mine too. It seems to be thin and flexible, and my pedals point at me also. The pedal stop I bought to replace it looks thicker with more adjustment. They're cheap and you should be able to pick one up at any VW shop.
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   9/20/2010, 6:47 pm

Cool, thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   10/1/2010, 11:27 pm

Guess I should have checked that out before I drove it last Rolling Eyes

So, the clutch cable came off and I learned how to drive a VW home with no clutch pedal. That was fun. I pulled the pedal assembly off tonight to find this special treat:
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Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
The last pic shows what I just confirmed to be a patch pan bolted under the original. I guess when that brake line broke, fluid was trapped between the two pans. That's some nasty stuff! At least my pedal stop is still intact. In fact, its still bolted to part of one of the pans:
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This is obviously going to be an undertaking to right the situation and I refuse to miss Bug Jam again so I am cutting a plate to bolt in there until after the show. Rigging at its finest Cool
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   10/2/2010, 12:34 am

you go jerm extreme engineering
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   2/27/2011, 4:20 pm

Trivia time! Can anyone tell me what year this apron is for. To my knowledge, it is not a '60 along with the hood latch (supposed to be a four bolt I think). I know the bug ran into something and the front has been repaired. The two tear drop shaped holes leads me to believe its a universal replacement. Note the quality over rider access holes. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   2/27/2011, 11:27 pm

That is a 1965 3 bolt apron, exactly like this one.

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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   2/27/2011, 11:46 pm

That looks rough and rusty.
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   2/27/2011, 11:49 pm

??????????????
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   2/28/2011, 12:14 am

Laughing

Well, that solves that I guess. I definitely have a mutt.
Thanks for the pic bugn. I was getting tired of looking through apron pics trying to figure that one out.
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   2/28/2011, 12:20 am

No Problemo, glad I could help.
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   2/28/2011, 12:35 am

was that holes in the floor?
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   2/28/2011, 1:14 am

HUH?
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   2/28/2011, 10:06 pm

what holes in the floor?? now you have a hole in the floor how did that happen jerm?
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   3/1/2011, 2:00 am

"The last pic shows what I just confirmed to be a patch pan bolted under the original."
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   3/1/2011, 12:47 pm

Its all clear to me now, thanks.

To answer your question Chris, yes those are some nasty holes in my original floor pan. No worries, there is a pan bolted underneath that and a metal plate bolted on top. I guess its 3 times as strong now? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   3/1/2011, 3:00 pm

After trying to decipher this, I need a metal plate bolted in my skull. My vision is blurry and my head hurts.
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   3/1/2011, 10:39 pm

U B BUGN wrote:
I need a metal plate bolted in my skull.

Another one? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   3/2/2011, 12:38 am

ha ha ha Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   3/9/2011, 10:06 am

Yes, another one. I recycled the last one.
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   3/9/2011, 4:37 pm

I understand. Times are tough with the economy and all. With scrap prices where they are, I don't blame you one bit!
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   3/9/2011, 11:45 pm

I hope it was Copper.
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   3/10/2011, 9:21 am

Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   8/3/2011, 8:11 pm

Well, as mentioned in the tinkering thread, I have changed the hood to a period correct 4 tab, installed a '60 vert decklid, swapped to a different kind of carb linkage, installed a 75 amp alt, relocated the coil, installed the third brake light, relocated some wires, installed my refurbed gas tank, relocated the fuel filter by the tranny, and changed one of the two batteries.

It took no time for her to start up which amazed me since she's been sitting for awhile. The clutch pedal is still jittery though. I'm going to check the cable adjustment and see if that helps. Fingers crossed.
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PostSubject: Re: My ongoing '60 project   8/8/2011, 11:02 am

Does anyone have a picture of the correct hood latch assembly for a '59-'60 bug? I have two different styles and am trying to figure out which is correct.
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